I said it and I’m not straddling the fence on it either. There are two very important things that factor into my decision. I can hear you now, thinking, ‘She’s one of them ole school, backward southerners and can’t talk right no how. I ain’t listening to shit she gotta say.’ But I beg the damn differ, folks. I implore you to listen ’cause we’ll be in a heap-pile of more trouble should a woman get to swishing her ass around in that oval office. My two reasons? Periods and menopause.
Hold on now. Get your fist outta my throat and hear me out.
I’ve been around y’all and yeah, I’m a woman too and all but that don’t mean shit to me. I’m just as concerned about the national debt and all this other shit we’re knee-deep in. And I don’t care what you say, a woman is a woman is a damn woman. Period. This brings me to my first point of concern.
You know, and I got some men folk that can back me up on this here, but a woman’s either like a demon in a race car or a chance of rain one minute or hail the next during that time of month. There’s no damn telling what could or couldn’t happen and I ain’t throwing away my vote pretending all her degrees and experiences will make the difference between her and me. Plus, women folk catty as hell. If you’ve ever had a woman boss, you know exactly where I’m coming from. And you can be in denial all you want and say the one you had was the best thing since your last orgasm, the point is, it’s all temporary and you just won’t get that good feeling all the time.
I’ve heard of some women menopausing for ten damn years! You think nothing’s gonna trickle down to us having some menopausing heifer with a shoe fettish in that White House, you’ve got another damn think coming! Remember during the last election, when Hilary boo-hooed them ugly tears? The media played it up real good, talking about how compassionate she was. Don’t believe the hype, folks. She was having a hot flash and crying out of nowhere comes with all that. Come the next day, she was all good and shit. Even got a little cocky ’cause she thought that crying gave her an edge. Ain’t nothing worse than dealing with a woman who can cry out of no damn where and know this is the power she holds over somebody. That can be one conniving heifer, ’cause I’m telling you straight the hell up. I have done it to get out traffic tickets, to get what I wanted in some store or just didn’t want to be damn bothered with somebody. I was on to Hilary’s little game from the jump.
And I’m just gonna have a to take a deep breath and let it out on any other prospects out there. I mean, Palin still gets her period, so that explains it all. If I absolutely had to pick a woman, I’d choose Ellen or Oprah. I figure, at least Ellen’s in touch with who she is right now. I can only imagine with all the laws changing and with a black man in office, gay folk will eventually make it there too. What a parade that’ll wind up being but I’ll leave somebody else to blog about that. And Oprah would be good on account of her liking to give away stuff. Even though I’ve never benefited from her favorite shit list, at least other folk have. We’d just have to work on her crying in public ’cause I’ve sat on my sofa too many times and watched her break out into the Oprah Ugly Cry. She ain’t right for that.
Other than them two, I can’t imagine anybody else. And since I’ve at least compromised on a couple prospects, I definitely wouldn’t want them having a woman VP. I have to be real about it. I’d hate to imagine two women folk on their periods at the same time, trying to run the damn country when the most important thing is to satisfy that craving for chocolate.
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What I am about to write is not an attempt at being ‘PC’ or some bullshit cry for ‘equality’ between the sexes. I am going to say what I feel on this one and take whatever blow-back comes from it. I believe a couple of things should happen BEFORE there can be a female president:
1] Women need to be FORMALLY added to combat roles in the military and eligible for drafting into military service. If men are expected to die/kill for this country, the same expectation should be applied to women. I know several women that are willing and able to do it. But I know VASTLY MORE that are completely against it.
2] Men need to be given the ability to challenge a pregnancy. Specifically, a woman can FORCE a man into paternal responsibility, but a man can’t force a woman to carry a child the full term. I believe in a “woman’s right to choose”; however, if they want to say men can’t control their bodies, a woman can’t expect to have a similar amount of control over a man’s decisions with respect to his finances.
I have talked on my blog about how their is this half-assing with respect to feminism and dating in that women want all of the perceived benefits of the male gender without relinquishing the [FEW] benefits they enjoy as a woman. In the business world, their may be preferential treatment for men, but there are also situations and circumstances that benefit women that they should be willing to give up. Men have negatives, too- and women should expect to carry those negatives just like men do.
And I do not say that because I think women aren’t doing their ‘fair share’. I say it because I think AMERICAN SOCIETY is not willing to accept the full consequences of equality.
I must say, Incog-Negro, you’ve backed ole Totsy into a virtual corner. I ain’t gonna sit here and tell you I like this wall against my back, so I’m gonna ease my head out the lion’s mouth. Not on account of me being scared and all but I have to be big enough to say you’re right. Absolutely, you are.
I’m gonna even let you in that I’ve been a half-assed feminist my damn self. “The consequences of equality” comes off real strong and I’m gonna tell you straight up and down, I’m not gonna say I’m right on all points ’cause of me being a woman but you come up in here raising cane and all
I’m gonna have to get over to your place more often to see what the hell you’re talking about over there.
But let me ask you this. Do you not think those laws were set in place as reactionary measures ’cause of male behavior? I mean, you and I know all men ain’t responsible and if a woman comes up pregnant, who are you saying owns her body to make a decision on what happens to that baby she’s carrying? ‘Cause the way I see it, any time two folk lay up with each other, they have to think beforehand of the probability that a baby could be in the making. Now, that ain’t got so much to do with finances as it does common damn sense.
Marriage was designed to transfer property. Paternity exists because of man’s desire to ensure his progeny and legacy. I am not absolving men of their responsibility or culpability. However, we talk about being “pro-choice”, but choice for the man STOPS when he enters the woman. In the reverse, her choice never ends. She might tell him that even in the event of an unplanned pregnancy, she would not want to have the child. But, if she changes her mind after becoming pregnant, he has no recourse.
A woman’s right to choice is a declaration of self-determination. But that same declaration imposes on a man. We say to men: don’t sleep with her unless you are ready to have a baby with her. We say to women: you have the right to terminate a pregnancy [within a certain time frame and circumstances]; and the cry of ‘freedom’ goes out whenever any attempt to further restrict that choice is discovered. That is a CONTRADICTION. Common sense should point that out to you.
And I speak on this subject from experience on several angles.
Okay now, Incog-Negro! I’m about to file my nails and scratch your ass. LoL!
What common sense points out to me is that the human mind is a complex muscle that changes. A woman can change her mind if she pleases and she can change somebody else’s too. Didn’t Eve change Adam’s about that damn tree? Men have to step up and play their roles ‘decently and orderly.’ In that way, there would be minimal excuses. Hey, we’re all gonna screw up but when you talk about a baby, where one parent wants it and the other doesn’t on account of a few minutes of pleasure,I can’t tell you how profoundly screwed up that sounds to me. When that kind of thing comes into play, it’s hard for me to think about who made the baby but my thought is the baby.
So, you tell me this, ’cause I think I’m hearing some virtual whining going on here. Though I have to keep giving you your props, ’cause you’re smart as hell. But. What kind of support do you want men to have from the judicial system they designed?
There is NO WHINING. I am simply saying that people need to own up to the contradictions. I am NOT saying men should avoid paternity and abandon fatherhood. I AM saying that women need to recognize that there are certain situations that they benefit from at the direct detriment to men. Equality should come across the board, not only in the areas we prefer or are most comfortable with…
Okay. No whining. But I will say there is no such thing as equality of men women when it comes to pregnancy when it all boils down.
Yes, women do benefit in some respects but all too often, and I won’t say this is your particular issue, but there are some men who have so-called benefited from leaving the relationship and child(ren) fatherless, so I’m not even seeing equality as part of the equation when looking at the bigger picture. But then again, no one really benefits when a child is born out of wedlock, if you really think about it. And I’m not talking about tangibles. I’m talking about putting in time and the whole shebang.
dear, Totsy,
You are so damn hilareous, witty, & did i mention funny as hell?
—–but i must disagree on this one.
Have you ever heard of Margaret Thatcher?…otherwize known as
“The Iron WOman.”
yeah, that chick got her periods, babe & conquered the freakin’ Falkland Islands at the same time…. She was one Mother. Or Queen Elizabeth the First!!! WOW. Loooooved her.
Periods. Menapause.
Bring it oooon, honey.
I always said … if women ruled the world…
we would talk it out….discuss….love….and share chocolate together.
I mean, Bin Laden would have given up immediately.
if women ruled the world….we would have parties on the Hill and invite world leaders instead of damn movie stars… No wars…….Just wisdom, intellelect, brilliance, discussion, tolerance, mercy, grace, insight & Looooooooooove!
HA.
Periods? Yeah—– Blood is Power!!!!
XX Kiss from Mn.
Well Ms. Kim, that all sounds like one big happy party in an ideal world. It really does and I almost fell for it and thought I should retract my statement but I’m gonna have to stand strong, Ms. Kim
I say that ’cause I’m trying to picture 4 years of women folk living this dream you painted and I see it lasting all of about one week, and that’s a stretch.
Look, I know ’bout that Thatcher woman and I’m gonna send you virtual props for that but I wanna know how many women folk she had around her to make her prime minister for them 11 years. Wasn’t many, I tell you that.
And you, my dear, are just as funny, over there in all that pink. Always enjoy you
I still think your smart and hell and I appreciate your ideas & opinions.
We cool?
I mean You’Re!!
Much respect, Kim… But didn’t that whle “Falkland Islands” thing constitute a war? So much for the “no wars” fantasy.
Yeah, It did. I’m so damn wishy-washy.
x
But I still think women should Rule the World
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You’re funny! I’m just crazy!
Thanks for hanging out again and tweeting me all over the place. Big hugs back at ya!
To the Incog-Negro–
I like your point about men/women/babies. However, it got me thinking…A man’s choice after he enters a woman does not stop. This man can choose to be a father to the seed he just sowed or to be a dead beat dad because it wasn’t “his choice” for the woman to keep the baby.
I totally agree that whatever the woman chooses about the baby will impose on the man–but that is no excuse for him to act any kind of way. He knew at the very beginning that he could bring a child into this world, what difference does it make whether the woman chooses to give birth? Did he have the choice to stop his sperm from fertilizing that egg? Couldn’t he think about the possibilities of having child–knowing damn well he probably does not want to, or cannot, take care of it?
Can you further explain how that last point you made is a contradiction? The way I see it, if a man WANTED to fight for his child, he should have some say in that..
Once again- I am NOT excusing men or encouraging them to run from responsibility.
Here is the contradiction with respect to parenting/childbirth: If society truly believed the responsibility lies with BOTH people, then there would be a legal remedy for opposing positions on a pregnancy.
A man CAN’T force a woman to carry a child from conception to birth, but a woman can force a man to be at the very least financially responsible for a child . I have not heard of a single SUCCESSFUL lawsuit where a man could get an injunction to prevent a woman from terminating her pregnancy solely on the fact that he wanted to be a father.
Conversely, I have not heard of a case where a man could force a woman to abort a child based upon the fact that he doesn’t want to be a father; however, a woman can end a pregnancy [yes, with some limitations]. Her body, her choice: have it or not. The man has NO say it it, but it affects him.
My point is specifically that women don’t acknowledge the areas where they benefit and men don’t: women aren’t eligible for the draft, women can terminate a pregnancy or pursue child support, women expect men to propose marriage and provide an engagement ring, don’t hit a woman [but she can slap you while daring you to hit her back], don’t call a woman a bitch [but she can call you a dick, prick, punk, fag, etc- and you are supposed to let it go]…
It SEEMS petty, but this is what I am talking about with regards to becoming president. Stop asking for equality and fairness unless/until we are ALL willing to address EVERY instance of unfairness.
I apologize if my inability to articulate my position has produce a disrespectful or condescending tone. I respect everyone’s opinions and views. I do not believe I am RIGHT and anyone disagreement is ignorant. Quite the contrary, I hope to learn from everyone else as to how they feel and think about the perspective I present.
Thank you for reading with an open mind.
I see what you are saying and again, I just want to make sure Im understanding..
A man can’t force a woman to carry a child. True. But he can force his penis in her and not want to take any responsibility for the outcome. That aint right–not that you said it was. But the point you brought up, which I agree with, is that there are no successful lawsuits for men fighting against abortion. I wonder, HOW MANY men fight against it? Im talking about the men whose child it is..I wonder.
A woman/mother I believe has the right to force a man to be the father to HIS child. A dude should never even think about forcing abortion for his own child either–because that to me is just sick.
Now, Are you serious about these so called women benefits? Really? Women are ABUSED everyday all around the world–so afraid to speak out in fear that they will be KILLED that most of it goes unreported…Pursuing child support–from a man whose other half it is!! Benefit or struggle? Hmm….marriage proposal–that’s based on tradition. I know people where the roles were reversed. Dont hit a woman but she can slap a man–yes, a slap could hurt so much more than a punch. Im not saying its ok for ANYone to hit, but women suffer domestic violence and rape more than men. Please don’t ever try to use that argument that women have a “benefit”. Most of the time they might be fighting for their lives! Name calling?? Do you listen to rap music? It is TOTALLY ok to call women all of those names. Rarely do you hear/see that come from women in mainstream media.
You’re right, there is no equality. You wanna talk about equality? How about the fact that women STILL get paid a quarter less than men? There is so much wrong with your comment about stop asking for fairness…Never. As a black woman, I can tell you that there are so many obstacles we face…its sickening to hear you say that. But whatever.
Did I condone abuse?
Did I support men walking out on their kids?
Did I cosign rape?
No- you interpreted it the way you WANTED to; that is not my problem. You can be against abortion, never even said I was FOR IT. Instead of spending so much time making assumptions and false equivalencies, try have an objective mind and being open to someone else’s opinion.
MY POINT, AGAIN: Stop asking for equality and fairness unless/until we are ALL willing to address EVERY instance of unfairness.
It’s been a healthy exchange. I see there are very valid points to what you’re contesting. I don’t see your statements with any disrespect intended. You’ve articulated yourself in a way that men rarely do. Likewise, I’ve read your blog and get much out of how you express yourself.
I’ve heard where men pay for children that aren’t theirs. I know the women know this and there are absolutely no consequences for women who do this. It pisses me off as much as it does you. I have a son, so I feel protective from the male perspective also. There are simply some women who just aren’t right, I know that and it’s unjust when this kind of situation happens.
Though remember, I don’t want a woman sitting in the White House. And there does need to be some things in place as you mentioned. You’ve given me points to think about I’d never considered and I appreciate that. No hard feelings here.
I’m not down on considering a woman president, but the candidates so far are dreadful!!! Palin is a dummy who cannot speak a proper sentence and doesn’t know her history, and Bachman is wayyyyy too far to the right. Fir that matter, 99% of the male prospects suck the big one too.
I hear you. It’s going to be interesting. Real interesting.
Incog-negro, I didn’t say that YOU said any of those things were OK. You tell me how I am supposed to “interpret” what you said? Am Im not allowed to debate anything? Really…How am I supposed to interpret those comments? Help me, because Im lost…
Of course a man wants us to feel his pain. Of course. And everyone does have their instances of unfair treatment. My mind is open to your opinion, I just don’t agree with it. Sounds like you’re not open to mine. Don’t assume that I think you’re a bad guy or that I believe that you think those things are OK. I’m discussing these things to make a point.
There will never be equality in this world. Never. But that’s no reason at all to stop asking for it. Yes, we have to be able to see all sides of situations, but man, you can’t really compare the abuse women go through with a slap in the face and say, “lets talk about men!”. Nah, I can’t see that comparison. No person should be abused but please don’t minimize an already marginalized group.
ShesNeon- I am done trying to converse with you when all you are interested in doing is switching things to what you want to talk about. You claim to want to discuss MY point, but keep flipping it with straw-man arguments.
Just to make sure you do not misinterpret what I am saying: To “attack a straw man” is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the “straw man”), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
I asked you a question.. How am I supposed to interpret your comments? If you don’t have an answer, fine! Sorry if you are mistaken, but I really do want to talk about your point. If you don’t want to do that then I can’t force you.
I don’t see any straw man arguments..I refuted what you said. Now if you disagree, that’s fine too. But don’t avoid it and bring up some term to try to make me fell like I made a mistake.
You say I’m not talking about your point, but maybe you don’t want to talk about mine. We aren’t reaching a stasis. So the discussion is done.
If we are to believe the lastest finding that woman go into politics to get something done, but men become politicians for the fame, that makes me think we should get one of those blood-letting or menopausal females in there lickety split. I wonder if we’ve already seen our first gay president and just never knew his orientation. I’d love to see that pop out of an FBI file! Regardless Totsymae, you’ve done it again! Funny stuff.
I’d seriously have to question that considering Palin. I mean, please tell me we won’t get a candidate or president who has a reality show.
I suppose since other politicians have ‘come out.’ you’re right in that we’ve probably already had a gay president before. Hmmm….
Thank you again for peeping in
Wow, what a debate!!!, I’m not gonna go all political on you, but I’m just gonna say one thing, if I’m not in the mood just give me that button to push!!! And I consider myself a very mild person, but again I’m Russian
Debate, as I see it, is healthy and shows passion that one is informed and cares about the topic at hand. I know you’ve got much to say and it’s okay if you don’t :- ) Always glad to hear from you
Sorry for come so late to the party. You’ve stirred up the hornet’s nest, eh Tots?
Sounds to me you just don’t want any of the women who’ve presented themselves or a making noises about running. On that point – I’m definitely with you but not for the reasons you put forward. They aren’t competent. Forget Palin. She’s got no credibility and if she runs and becomes president, we’d be doomed. And Bachman, well, she’s only a notch above Palin.
Unfortunately, the women who would make solid candidates are probably smart enough to know they don’t want the job.
It’s time a woman – an intelligent, compassionate, competent, resolute woman – becomes president. We’ve seen in England (Thatcher) India (Indira Gandhi) and Israel (Golda Meir) and several other smaller countries that it can happen but I doubt it will now. After Barack, you can bet we’re going back to the drawing board for a while.
Good post as usual. Funny as hell,
Marcia
Yeah, I kinda sorta did.
I did think of those women after Kim mentioned Thatcher. Then, I got to thinking about our culture and what kind of woman has America bred to match them?
I’m gonna say it straight out, Palin’s a friggin’ knuckle head and the other one is a bit of a quack. I’m just not sure if we’re ready for a woman or if there’s a qualified woman for the job.. People got excited about Palin for all the wrong reasons. We’ve got a lot of work to do internally, I know that.
Just want you to know I was here and read your post and all ensuing comments. This one’s too controversial for a light-hearted gal like me.
Just a note: men experience daily hormone fluctuations. Think about it…
I know.
I never thought of women that way but after the last three years in education, I started to see women differently. I know men have period’-like ways but women are so much worse.
At heart I swing with old school rule(s)… women primarily staying the hell home and nurturing them babies and supporting that man so that he can provide for the damn family! In that aspect,YES, stay the hell out the White House.
HOWEVER, old school being yesteryear, and our economy damn near in collapse, all at the hands of WHO!?! then I’m going with the way Sista Kim stated it. My only insertion is that the kick ass woman knows how to handle a man which she should have learned thru handling her business at home!
Oh, girl! That’s real old school. I can’t go there with you on that ’cause I’m not domestic and I like the independence that comes with working. Plus, I feel like I need to have my man’s back should something happen that he can’t work or whatever. Anyway, just my little soapbox.
Well, you and Kim are sisters in arms on this. That’s cool
I respect that but I hope a woman doesn’t make it there. still 
Not sure on this one. The last two companies I have worked for the CEO’s were women. The previous CEO was a psycho and didn’t do anything to foster the image of women in power. The one I work for now is the complete opposite. She is a good leader. I disagree completely with Kim about Thatcher because she did do a damn thing for the women movement because she was too intent on being a man. Did I just say that? Yes I did. I was living there when John Major took office and I can tell you… Anyway I digress. Aside from all the passion the subject brings up, this write is really good.
Yeah, you did say that about Thatcher and I always kinda thought that but you’ve confirmed that for me.
Thanks for reading it and I’m glad you like it. Always a pleasurable exchange with you, Brenda
You might be right Totsymae, but I’d rather have had Hillary at the helm than say Bush 43 or Nixon. Hmm…give that some thought. What’s a little menopause compared to those two!!! Hahaha.
No, none of them. I’m gonna stick with Ellen and Oprah
We had Thatcher, no more to be said lol, love your blog
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Okay, you’re the second person to mention Thatcher favorably. I’m throwing in towel on that one
Incog-negro-Im in love with your mind…love a man that doesnt back down…ump!
Would like to get any gender to address global warming, the oppression of the working class by megabanks and megacorps, nuclear proliferation. Oh yeah, and there’s also that obscure and apparently insignificant matter that a million people a day on this planet perish from malnutrition and untreated disease. We occupy ourselves dealing with a lot of frivolity these days.